I started out all enthusiastic about 3M patch Plus primer but eventually stopped using it. Often times before painting the last coat you see a ding on the wall and want to quickly fill it before painting. This spackle was suppose to not need spot priming because of the built-in primer. That's BS.Joe67 said:
I'm lucky. My 5 minute mud is to pick up the phone and say "Bill's going to need to come here and fix this stuff." (Bill is a pretty good finisher, and no one wants me on mud because I'm so bad at it. Just never did enough of it to get the knack).
For smaller stuff that I can handle, my 5 min mud is 3M patch/primer, though the 5 mins can be a lot longer depending on depth/thickness.Click to expand...
It started to flash on me which is the very reason I started using it for walls.
Also, the tubs they use to package it are terrible because it ALWAYS seem to crack open and dry out the whole container. I've tried taping it but it still manages to dry out. I was paying a premium price for it and it wasn't worth it.
I've used the low dust all purpose drywall compound for years without issue. You just need to spot prime it and it sands beautifully.
Mr Smith said:
I started out all enthusiastic about 3M patch Plus primer but eventually stopped using it. Often times before painting the last coat you see a ding on the wall and want to quickly fill it before painting. This spackle was suppose to not need spot priming because of the built-in primer. That's BS.
It started to flash on me which is the very reason I started using it for walls.
Also, the tubs they use to package it are terrible because it ALWAYS seem to crack open and dry out the whole container. I've tried taping it but it still manages to dry out. I was paying a premium price for it and it wasn't worth it.
I've used the low dust all purpose drywall compound for years without issue. You just need to spot prime it and it sands beautifully.Click to expand...
Since I've never met a patching material that won't flash, I just make sure any patches get spotted before last coat. Same as priming drywall compound, except that I'm not in 2 paints.
The advantages I find for the 3M is that it does dry super-fast (depending on depth of course) and it's easy to just get a nice, smooth patch that needs minimal sanding. A final pass with a wet knife does especially well. Of course, we all figure our ways of doing things that we like best, and it's not like I do tape joints with it. (That's when I call Bill).
The containers do suck, and it is expensive. I just try to keep the rim clean so it will seal back well, and in a pinch one time I did learn that the stuff will re-hydrate very will with a little water, though only if it hasn't gone completely dry. If it's still got any mush to it at all it comes back. Even the harder bits (if not completely hardened) will melt back into the rest.
What is hot mud? In this segment we do a quick overview of this awesome product. I’ve noticed as I’ve reviewed other Drywall videos that Hot Mud is a product that few understand. I see people using it for very large projects instead of the typical one trip, in and out jobs that it most often applies to. Typically when you can tape and coat a project and then come back the next day normal joint compound is the most efficient to use because of the lack of a need to mix it. There are however applications where hot mud is the “miracle” product. When I’m doing repairs I use 5 minute hot mud exclusively. The fact that you can do a repair literally from start to finish in 30 minutes is a total game changer. Before they came out with 5 minute mud 20 minute was the fastest and that meant you had to apply it and then wait, not any more. With 5 minute mud my repair time was cut in half which has increased my daily volume dramatically. Sometimes when I travel I’ll call drywall repair companies to pick their brains as far as technique and price go, I’m amazed to find out that some are still not using hot mud and making several trips to accomplish the same task. On the subscription side I go into detail teaching the art of hot mud and how it can either make you money or just change your DIY project.
Note: When looking to speed up the cure time of drywall mud using this method, don’t leave your hair dryer running unattended as this is unsafe. Also, while faster drying of drywall mud shortens the timeline of finishing projects, letting the joint compound cure naturally will deliver the best results.Same here, use it quite a bit. When it says "5 minute" thats all you have, maybe less if it is warmer out. Works great for the small patches, and you have to clean your tools up right away too. Use COLD water if you don't want it to "pop" quickly, warm water if it is a real small patch and you don't care if it starts setting up in a couple minutes.
I generally keep the 20 minute stuff on the truck, and use a small fan to get it to dry quicker, but the 5 minute has it's uses too, especially in commercial work where you need to make small repairs quickly.