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Well you might've seen my previous posts. I fixed some issues but another one remains. My system performs no better than my previous one, a Athlon xp 2400+ 512ram ect. The only thing my new system does better is games, since I have a better gpu. But as far as multitasking goes, I can't do anything. I mean installing norton, laggs me like crazy. Or even just booting up takes a while My system specs are e6300, Gigabyte 965G ds3, 7600GT, 2gb 667 Patriot ddr2. Please help, I spent a lot of money on this and I don't think I got my moneys worth.
Jul 26, 2006 110 0 18,680 0
Yeah I already got the latest bios, I downloaded the latest drivers too, but now everything is messed up. Did I do something wrong? Now even when I put in the cd that came with the board the thing is still messed up. I've even tried reformatting serveral times before I got the latest drivers and bios. niz
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Feb 5, 2003 903 0 18,980 0
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Nope the problem isn't your PC, its windows. Also, I just read your post again... Norton kills performance. Don't use it.
Microsoft couldn't write a good OS if their life depdended on it.
If you wanna have good mutlitasking, switch to Linux.
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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Make sure your RAM is running synchronous to the FSB. If you haven't overclocked, you should manually set it to 533 MHz. However I doubt this would produce such dramatic performance degradation. Have you tried overclocking? Check out wusy's Conroe
overclocking guide. Even if you only follow (to the letter) parts 1 (tidying up BIOS) and 2 (memory adjustments), you might be able to solve your problems. However, since you already have DDR2 667, you might as well raise the FSB to 333 MHz or beyond. I have a E6600 and it's the fastest performing processor I've ever owned, even at stock speed. I've owned PCs for 20 years.
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Niz thanks, but I'm positive I would see a huge performance boost from my old pc even if it is on windows. Plus I even went a while without norton, its not like it killed me in anyway, I ram 3dmark 06 and got pretty much the same scores. kukito, even with my ram not running synchronous, I still think I should see a performance boost. And thanks, I'll try wusy's guide.
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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kukito, even with my ram not running synchronous, I still think I should see a performance boost. And thanks, I'll try wusy's guide.
Jul 26, 2006 110
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Well I just tried those, no improvement What could be wrong in my setup?
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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You followed wusy's guide in two minutes? Damn! I suspect you are either 1- extremely frustrated by your inability to extract the performance you expected or, 2- Planting FUD for AMD.
Jul 26, 2006 110 0 18,680
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I only did the first two parts, which I don't think should have taken me too long...I only changed enabled to disabled and what not Couldn't you do this in about 2 minutes? Part1. Tidying Up Your BIOS (not all BIOS may have those options) 1. Disable ‘AI Tuning’ for ASUS, ‘C.I.A.2’ for
Gigabyte The purpose here is to lighten up duties placed on the chipset Part2. Memory Adjustments 1. Set ‘DRAM Timing’ to manual or disable
SPD (use SPD for P5W DH) e.g. 4-4-4-12 When 1FSB:1RAM is overclocked above the rated frequency of your RAM use the following values e.g. DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 1.9V operating at ~400Mhz will need to be set to
5-5-5-15 2.2V 3. Leave the rest of other timings either at ‘Auto’ or at their default values I'm not biased twards amd or intel. I just want the best my money can buy, and currently, it was intel. Just it doesn't seem like that right now.
And I am frustrated that I spent a lot of money on something, and I don't see it being worth it at all.
*You must update your BIOS to the latest version before proceeding*
2. Set PCI Express (PCIe) frequency @100Mhz (‘Auto’ for DS3/DS4/DQ6)
3. Set PCI frequency @33Mhz
4. Disable Hyperpath 3 (for P5W DH only)
5. Disable any ‘spread spectrum’
6. Disable Q-Fan (for ASUS only)
7. Disable ‘Limit CPUID Max to 3’
8. Disable any overvoltage protection
9. Disable ‘C1E’
10. Disable ‘EIST’
11. Disable Virtualization Technology
12. Disable No-Execute Memory Protect
13. Disable any other thing you don’t use
14. Do
not enable any speed enhancements you see
**Expand options for Gigabyte BIOS under ‘M.I.T.’ by pressing CTRL+F1**
Gigabyte: Set ‘Memory Multiplier’ to 2 (1FSB:1RAM operation)
ASUS: Set ‘DRAM Frequency’ to DDR2-533 @266Mhz FSB (1FSB:1RAM operation)
As you increase the FSB, the RAM will follow in the pattern of 1:1 shown in BIOS.
2. In BIOS you will see 4 separate timing digits, change them to the ones specified on your RAM
CAS# Latency (tCL)
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)
RAS# Precharge (tRP)
RAS# Precharge Delay or Active to Precharge (tRAS)
Timing: 5-5-5-15
vDIMM: 2.2V
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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Overclock it to 2.33 GHz and check back with us. Follow wusy's guide to the letter. No quickies. I apologize, but it's just that I'm starting to see a pattern of threads, one about CPU temps, another about a co-worker's Conroe HP, and now yours, that simply don't match my own experience, what I can see with my very own eyes. My Conroe runs at 1.6 GHz most of the time (because
of Speedstep) and it's still faster than anything I've ever owned. All of these threads are started by people like you, relative newcomers with 30-80 posts. It just seems odd. Maybe I'm being too paranoid but still...
Oct 6, 2006 656 0 18,990 1
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This may be a silly question, but is your board C2d compatible? I read that not all boards were, obviously....
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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What are your motherboard and CPU temps? Maybe the heatsink isn't installed properly. Troubleshoot. The problem is not the Conroe, again unless you got a dud.
Jul 26, 2006 110 0 18,680
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kukito, I would really rather not overclock it. Little too worried about that one. And Gste, my board said it would support Core 2 duo. So I don't think thats the problem.
My cpu temp is 40C according to EasyTune5, and mobo temp is 30C, also with EasyTune.
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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There's just no way in friggin' hell that a Conroe doesn't outperform an Athlon xp 2400+. No way. Even the suggestion is absolutely preposterous.
Jul 26, 2006 110 0 18,680 0
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Well look at my 3dmark 06 score The cpu score
is fine, when looking at others, just I don't see it as "multitasking" People all say they can encode video and what not while running anti virus and be playing a game. I have trouble running anti virus and playing a game as old as counter-strike 1.6
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Well I set my ram to 533, and 4-4-4-12(which is advertised). And just disabled a few other things. Should I reset my CMOS and only set my ram to 1:1?
Jul 24, 2006 22,674 217 51,840 202
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No, no do the other things in the guide that are relavent but like I said some arent relavent to those who arent OCing (which is why its called an OCing guide), so just pick out the ones that are relavent to you.
Jul 26, 2006 110 0
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Well then I guess I did that. I really need some advice hear, I'm getting really annoyed.
Thanks so far to everyone though.
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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Don't go. We won't give up. Could you please tell us your CPU and motherboard temps? An improperly installed heatsink could be the cause of all your problems. Go check. We'll be here, don't worry.
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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I know Conroe. Conroe is a friend of mine. And you, Mr. Athlon xp 2400+, are no Conroe. PS: For the youngsters and the unfamiliar with American culture, that was an old political joke by Ronald Reagan mocking Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas for saying that in reference to JFK to the vice-presidential candidate (and eventual winner) Dan Quayle in a debate. Sorry for the long sentence.
Jul 24, 2006 22,674 217 51,840 202
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I know Conroe. Conroe is a friend of mine. And you, Mr. Athlon xp 2400+, are no Conroe. PS: For the youngsters and the unfamiliar with American culture, that was an old political joke by Ronald Reagan mocking Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas for saying that in reference to JFK to the vice-presidential candidate (and eventual winner) Dan Quayle in a debate. Sorry
for the long sentence.
Ok :? ... right, well I dont think thats going to help him fix his problem 8)
Jan 11, 2005 9,704 6 46,965 1,942
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Well then I guess I did that. I really need some advice hear, I'm getting really annoyed. Thanks so far to everyone though.
Could you be using the worst HD ever made? If its an ATA HD make sure that its not on the same ATA cable with a CD-ROM or DVD drive. Try running sandra test utilitys to find bottle necks and look closly at any
suggestions sandra's wizard gives you.
//www.sisoftware.net/
May 17, 2006 568 0 18,990 2
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Oops! Sorry. The CPU temp is too high though, but definitely not high enough to be the cause of his problems. Apple runs the Core Duos in the MacBook Pro in the 90s C.
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