Hey gang first time poster here. I recently picked up a mk5 gti golf, and I'd really like to take it to a track.
Im very lucky to have 4 race tracks within a 2.5 hour drive.
The car has some cheap chinese tyres on it that are pretty garbage, they have about half life left in them.
Im going to replace them and the ps4's are on sale at the moment, so i was thinking of jumping on them and putting them in the garage to replace when these are done.
Would these be suitable to a track noob? I don't want to "over tyre" the car, but i still want quality underneath me. I have done a bit of reading about tyres for noobs and the consensus is to drive what's on there and don't turn up with semi's.
Plan is, go to first track day with high temp brake fluid (has new enough pads and disks) and drive the piss out of it, and use up the junk tyres that came with the car. Wear them out, put on my ps4's and go again.
07-16-2017, 07:39 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: ---- Posts: 8 Drives: ---- Rep Power: 7 | Are the PS4S recommended for Daily Driving ? Unfortunately when I bought my new Z the tires were worn out so the time to replaced them is now. I see everyone on the forum is talking about the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S Tires but as someone who doesn't do any track racing are they worth the investment or are there other tires that would be better value for the daily driver? |
07-16-2017, 08:15 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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07-16-2017, 09:58 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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07-17-2017, 06:34 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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07-17-2017, 07:18 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: TN Posts: 32 Drives: 2015 370Z sport Rep Power: 6
| These are street tires. It's not until you get into the "extreme performance " aka autocross tires, that you start to sacrifice streetability. These are about the best tires you can get for the street. Now, there are tires that are more economical and perform nearly as well if you don't need the absolute best tire. Look at Bridgestone and Continental for high quality alternatives. |
07-17-2017, 07:37 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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| Well like the op I'm gonna need tires soon, 50/50 hwy and twistys, I'm not hard on the car in the corners and a tire that lasts awhile would be good! __________________ |
07-17-2017, 09:24 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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| Go read the reviews on tire rack.com for the PS4S. Very positive, if not phenomenal. |
07-17-2017, 10:39 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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| They're good from what i've read. You can't go wrong with them, but I personally wouldn't spend that much money on them. I'm running the Conti DW with no issues. |
07-17-2017, 01:14 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by abm89 They're good from what i've read. You can't go wrong with them, but I personally wouldn't spend that much money on them. I'm running the Conti DW with no issues. DW's were replaced by the Extreme Contact Sports. The ECS's improved and competitive in every objective measurement. The PS4S is a great tire. If that's what you're wanting, its great. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI |
07-17-2017, 02:17 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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| have had the PS4S since May, great tire all around, they did great at the autocross this past weekend, were a bit more sticky then the last set of PS I had... They did well on the trip too, since I went to Dayton to autocross with my son __________________ |
07-17-2017, 02:53 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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| I'm rocking em. I dont track my car but with how easily the back wheels break free I absolutely adore them. Then the few times I go into the canyons or mountains they prove to be reliable and predictable through every single turn. I started a thread on them here, check it out. Lots of people have put in their opinion. None bad. __________________
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07-17-2017, 08:42 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by kingjah23 ...are they worth the investment or are there other tires that would be better value for the daily driver? Most have responded to the OP title, but I'm more interested in this question if anyone can comment futher __________________ |
07-17-2017, 09:37 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by mikeb Most have responded to the OP title, but I'm more interested in this question if anyone can comment further Out of the latest new tires on the market - 245/40r19 x 4 Mich PS4 - 242 x 4 - 971 - ??? - Similar compound to Hankook RS3 (larger sipes/ thicker tread) Notable extremes - Based purely on one size - the PS4 is the most expensive out of the summer max tires. I'm not entirely sure they will last any longer or post significant lap times over any other tire other than the S-04 on this list. If the PSS's is any indication (which they aren't really, completely different compounds) The cost is not worth it versus an extreme or a cheaper Max summer tire like the PZ4's or ContiSports. Continental has proven their tires can withstand track torture. PZ4 imo feels excellent for street driving, but ultimately too soft if you plan on abusing them. I'm personally hesitant on wasting money on the extra cost of the Michelins because i was never "wowed" by the PSS or PS2's. |
07-19-2017, 11:21 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by MaysEffect ... good info MaysEffect; thanks __________________ |
07-19-2017, 11:45 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by mikeb good info MaysEffect; thanks Doesn't make it correct info...
What's too soft for daily driving? I thought they're 300 treadwear __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp) |