Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

Ranni's Dark Moon is a spell in Elden Ring.

Description

Legendary sorcery associated with the Carian queen.Uses the caster as a vessel to incarnate a cold, dark moon, then sends it floating toward foes. The dark moon dispels all sorcery that touches it,  and temporarily reduces magic damage negation for those it strikes.The moon was encountered by a young Ranni, led by the hand of her mother, Rennala. What she beheld was cold, dark and veiled in occult mystery.

Acquisition

Chelona's Rise, in the south-west of the Moonfolk Ruins. You'll have to solve the puzzle with the three spirit turtles. One is right next to the Rise, the other at the cliff south-east of the Moonfolk Ruins on a ledge and the third is flying above the evergaol portal in the north-west. You'll have to start at Chelona's Rise and travel to each location by foot/horse, otherwise the turtles don't spawn.

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Description

Ranni’s Dark Moon is part of the Full Moon sorcery school. When cast, it creates a dark moon that floats towards enemies. All sorceries are dispelled if touched by the moon and it will temporarily reduce an enemy’s magic damage resistance.

Lore

Legendary sorcery associated with the Carian queen. Uses the caster as a vessel to incarnate a cold, dark moon, then sends it floating toward foes. The dark moon dispels all sorvery that touches it, and temporarily reduces magic damage negation for those it strikes. The moon was encountered by a young Ranni, left by the hand of her mother, Rennala. What she beheld was cold, dark and veiled in occult mystery.

Location

  • Found in the chest at the top of Chelona’s Rise once the seal has been broken.
  • Chelona’s Rise can only be unlocked after defeating Astel, Naturalborn of the Void during Ranni’s questline and reaching the Moonlight Altar. The tower is in the far southwest of the Moonlight Altar and is sealed like the others. You must find the spectral turtles once again but they are spread out across the entire plateau area.
  • First turtle is found west of the tower hanging off the cliffs so you will need a ranged attack to hit it.
  • Second turtle is found in the far east, south of the Lunar Estate Ruins. It is sitting on a rocky ledge below the cliff face so head right to the edge and look down.
  • Third turtle is found by heading southeast from the Ringleader’s Evergaol. It is high up in the air and can only be reached by riding Torrent and using the nearby Spiritspring to jump through it.

Notable Info

  • Stamina Cost: 32
  • Slots Used: 2
  • Boosted by Royal Carian Scepter, as well as the Snow Witch Hat.
  • Reduces a target’s magic negation by ~30%, 20% more than Rennala’s Full Moon.
  • Damage negation lasts for 60 seconds.
  • Inflicts cold damage, and will build Frostbite on vulnerable enemies. It is possible it will apply it immediately on enemies with low Frostbite resistance.
  • Cancels out any sorcery spells in its path.
  • It has an incredibly long cast time so make sure not to be interrupted.

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

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Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon
18 Apr @ 2:52pm

Difference in Full Moon Spells

Wiki isnt really clear there is much difference between the two 'Full Moon Spells'

that is Rennala's Full Moon and Rani's Dark Moon

for those of you that have practical experience using these spells for pve and pvp, how do they differ? is one better than another? are the effects different? the cast speeds?

some 80 INT gigabrain educate me please

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Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

I've been testing both at 75 intel atm with around the same results. I'm not sure if the alt moon is boost-able? Is it invis magic like the others of similar quality or just strictly moon category? With +2 tali for spell increase, +20 staff, +10 inv staff, moon staff, did not see a lot of damage while two handing this weapon. In fact they both hit every boss for exactly 500+ point average no matter what ?
That's with all wands that were 'not' the moon boost specific.(Barely tested.)

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

Rannis is cold. This info is easily available online, idk why youd waste the time making a thread for it

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

Renalla`s Full Moon boosted by Carian Regal Scepter. Has no additional effect. Rani's Dark Moon is boosted by the Carian Regal Scepter, as well as the Snow Witch Hat. This sorcery inflicts magic damage, and will build Frostbite on vulnerable enemies. It is possible it will apply it immediately. Reduces the target's magic negation by 10%. If this manages to trigger Frostbite on your target, which reduces damage negation by a further 20%, total reduction is around ~30%. Damage negation lasts for one minute. This spell reduces damage negation. It does not mean an enemy will take 10% more damage. The amount of increased damage a target will take is thus based upon how much magic negation they have. In terms of casting speed they are the same. Rani's Dark Moon is better and usually cast upon bosses first to deal bigger damage further.

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Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon
18 Apr @ 3:24pm 

Rannis is cold. This info is easily available online, idk why youd waste the time making a thread for it

there is some conflicting info on the wiki page comments - i made this thread to speak with people who had personally tested or experimented with the spells

the main question i'm looking to answer is if rani's dark moon is just the straight upgrade over renallas in every way that it appears to be

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

Rannis is cold. This info is easily available online, idk why youd waste the time making a thread for it
there is some conflicting info on the wiki page comments - i made this thread to speak with people who had personally tested or experimented with the spells

the main question i'm looking to answer is if rani's dark moon is just the straight upgrade over renallas in every way that it appears to be

IF they are roughly the same, but one also has frostbite and damage negation, and have more sources to get buffed; which one you think is better?

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Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon
18 Apr @ 3:43pm 

Originally posted by Kurobon:

there is some conflicting info on the wiki page comments - i made this thread to speak with people who had personally tested or experimented with the spells

the main question i'm looking to answer is if rani's dark moon is just the straight upgrade over renallas in every way that it appears to be

IF they are roughly the same, but one also has frostbite and damage negation, and have more sources to get buffed; which one you think is better?

like i said, it appears rani's dark moon is superior but i havent personally tested it so i was looking for confirmation for someone who had

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

The main difference is the frost build up as far as I can tell. Following Dark Moon with Adula's Moonblade with Regal Staff +9 and 77 Int made the second phase of the Fire Giant disappear in about three swings, four tops.

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Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon
18 Apr @ 3:51pm 

The main difference is the frost build up as far as I can tell. Following Dark Moon with Adula's Moonblade with Regal Staff +9 and 77 Int made the second phase of the Fire Giant disappear in about three swings, four tops.

thank you for the first actual answer in the thread

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

The main difference is the frost build up as far as I can tell. Following Dark Moon with Adula's Moonblade with Regal Staff +9 and 77 Int made the second phase of the Fire Giant disappear in about three swings, four tops.
thank you for the first actual answer in the thread :praisesun:

No prob. Dark Moon is a fantastic support spell to set you up to bring the pain directly following it. I'm a bit disappointed in Rennala's Moon, though. Given that I had to actually defeat her for that spell and get her remembrance duplicated it would be nice if it were comparable, perhaps with some kind of secondary build up of it's own.

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

The main difference is the frost build up as far as I can tell. Following Dark Moon with Adula's Moonblade with Regal Staff +9 and 77 Int made the second phase of the Fire Giant disappear in about three swings, four tops.

Frostbite has a damage proc like bleed, just not as big but can be easier to apply in some cases. But it has to be removed before it can proc again buy hitting it with another spell. One fun in close combo is staff in left hand with Adula's Moonblade while Fire's Deadly Sin is on you. This will do a constant fire AoE around you breaking the frostbite so you can continue to apply it with Moonblade.

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

Originally posted by Qubert:

The main difference is the frost build up as far as I can tell. Following Dark Moon with Adula's Moonblade with Regal Staff +9 and 77 Int made the second phase of the Fire Giant disappear in about three swings, four tops.

Frostbite has a damage proc like bleed, just not as big but can be easier to apply in some cases. But it has to be removed before it can proc again buy hitting it with another spell. One fun in close combo is staff in left hand with Adula's Moonblade while Fire's Deadly Sin is on you. This will do a constant fire AoE around you breaking the frostbite so you can continue to apply it with Moonblade.

You're saying that Adula's Moonblade directly following isn't adding to the frost build up? I guess it's possible that the Moonblade is just doing crazy damage on it's own, but it sure seemed like it was doing a LOT more with Dark Moon applied than without

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

Originally posted by Qubert:


Frostbite has a damage proc like bleed, just not as big but can be easier to apply in some cases. But it has to be removed before it can proc again buy hitting it with another spell. One fun in close combo is staff in left hand with Adula's Moonblade while Fire's Deadly Sin is on you. This will do a constant fire AoE around you breaking the frostbite so you can continue to apply it with Moonblade.
You're saying that Adula's Moonblade directly following isn't adding to the frost build up? I guess it's possible that the Moonblade is just doing crazy damage on it's own, but it sure seemed like it was doing a LOT more with Dark Moon applied than without

It is a bug I think, but if you are casting moonblade with your left hand you hit with both the sword and the following arc of frost. This will often trigger a full bar of frostbite in one swing, maybe two. Now just need to take advantage of the frostbite with another spell, hence my suggestion.

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

I recall reading something about Ranni's Dark Moon also absorbing incoming spell projectiles, which I don't recall about Rennala's Full Moon.

Rannis dark moon vs rennalas full moon

Originally posted by Qubert:

You're saying that Adula's Moonblade directly following isn't adding to the frost build up? I guess it's possible that the Moonblade is just doing crazy damage on it's own, but it sure seemed like it was doing a LOT more with Dark Moon applied than without

It is a bug I think, but if you are casting moonblade with your left hand you hit with both the sword and the following arc of frost. This will often trigger a full bar of frostbite in one swing, maybe two. Now just need to take advantage of the frostbite with another spell, hence my suggestion.

Right, I got that part, but what about Dark Moon detonated on the target and rapidly followed up by Adula's Moonblade? My (probably feeble minded) impression was that Adula's directly complimented Dark Moon frost build-up used in that sequence.

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18 Apr @ 4:21pm 

I recall reading something about Ranni's Dark Moon also absorbing incoming spell projectiles, which I don't recall about Rennala's Full Moon.

i saw the comments saying this as well but im skeptical - could easily be someone casting eternal darkness before winding up ranni's dark moon (eternal darkness would protect you from ranged spell poise damage while casting the somewhat long animation for ranni's dark moon

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Is Rannis dark moon a Full Moon sorcery?

Ranni's Dark Moon is a sorcery that requires 68 Intelligence to cast. It launches a dark moon that inflicts damage and builds up frostbite on foes, which makes it an exceptionally useful spell for frost builds.

Is Rennala Full Moon better than Rannis?

Renalla's Full Moon isn't worth dog, it's completely outclassed by Ranni's version in every way (more damage, cheaper, adds a debuff that increases magic damage). But to be truthfull, neither Moon spell is really worth it.

Which moon sorcery is best Elden Ring?

Elden Ring: The Best Sorceries In The Game.
8/11 Loretta's Greatbow..
7/11 Ranni's Dark Moon..
6/11 Rock Sling..
5/11 Briars Of Sin..
4/11 Glintblade Phalanx..
3/11 Comet Azur..
2/11 Crystal Torrent..
1/11 Stars Of Ruin..

Is Rennalas Full Moon powerful?

Elden Ring's Sorceries are some of the most impressive spells in the game - Rennala's Full Moon is both visually impressive and powerful.

Is Rannis Dark moon better than Rennalas?

Both take 2 spell slots, Rennala's requires 70 int, Ranni's requires 68 int, Rennala's costs 95 fp, Ranni's costs 107 fp, Rennala's does more damage, but Ranni's might be able to be boosted by the frost witch set.

What does Rennalas Full Moon do?

Rennala's Full Moon is a Sorcery in Elden Ring. Rennala's Full Moon spell creates a moon projectile that dispells sorceries it hits and temporarily reduces enemies magic damage negation. Updated to Patch 1.07. Sorcery associated with the Carian queen.