Michelin Pilot Sport 4S daily driver

Q: Are Michelin Pilot Sport 4S good for daily driving?

The Pilot Sport 4 S offers everything youd want in a track and daily driver tire while only sacrificing a little road noise. Based on our testing of this tire as well as the reviews weve seen from our customers, they are extremely pleased with the performance of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S.

Hey gang first time poster here. I recently picked up a mk5 gti golf, and I'd really like to take it to a track.

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Are Michelin Pilot Sport 4S good for daily driving?
How long do Michelin Super Sport 4S last?
Are Michelin Pilot Sport 4S good in the rain?
What is the difference between the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and 4S?

Im very lucky to have 4 race tracks within a 2.5 hour drive.

The car has some cheap chinese tyres on it that are pretty garbage, they have about half life left in them.

Im going to replace them and the ps4's are on sale at the moment, so i was thinking of jumping on them and putting them in the garage to replace when these are done.

Would these be suitable to a track noob? I don't want to "over tyre" the car, but i still want quality underneath me. I have done a bit of reading about tyres for noobs and the consensus is to drive what's on there and don't turn up with semi's.

Plan is, go to first track day with high temp brake fluid (has new enough pads and disks) and drive the piss out of it, and use up the junk tyres that came with the car. Wear them out, put on my ps4's and go again.

07-16-2017, 07:39 PM

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Are the PS4S recommended for Daily Driving ?

Unfortunately when I bought my new Z the tires were worn out so the time to replaced them is now. I see everyone on the forum is talking about the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S Tires but as someone who doesn't do any track racing are they worth the investment or are there other tires that would be better value for the daily driver?

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Why wouldn't they be?

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07-17-2017, 07:18 AM

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These are street tires. It's not until you get into the "extreme performance " aka autocross tires, that you start to sacrifice streetability. These are about the best tires you can get for the street.

Now, there are tires that are more economical and perform nearly as well if you don't need the absolute best tire. Look at Bridgestone and Continental for high quality alternatives.

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Well like the op I'm gonna need tires soon, 50/50 hwy and twistys, I'm not hard on the car in the corners and a tire that lasts awhile would be good!

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Go read the reviews on tire rack.com for the PS4S. Very positive, if not phenomenal.

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They're good from what i've read. You can't go wrong with them, but I personally wouldn't spend that much money on them. I'm running the Conti DW with no issues.

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They're good from what i've read. You can't go wrong with them, but I personally wouldn't spend that much money on them. I'm running the Conti DW with no issues.

DW's were replaced by the Extreme Contact Sports. The ECS's improved and competitive in every objective measurement.

The PS4S is a great tire. If that's what you're wanting, its great.

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have had the PS4S since May, great tire all around, they did great at the autocross this past weekend, were a bit more sticky then the last set of PS I had... They did well on the trip too, since I went to Dayton to autocross with my son

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I'm rocking em. I dont track my car but with how easily the back wheels break free I absolutely adore them. Then the few times I go into the canyons or mountains they prove to be reliable and predictable through every single turn. I started a thread on them here, check it out. Lots of people have put in their opinion. None bad.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kingjah23

...are they worth the investment or are there other tires that would be better value for the daily driver?

Most have responded to the OP title, but I'm more interested in this question if anyone can comment futher

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Most have responded to the OP title, but I'm more interested in this question if anyone can comment further

Out of the latest new tires on the market - 245/40r19 x 4

Mich PS4 - 242 x 4 - 971 - ??? - Similar compound to Hankook RS3 (larger sipes/ thicker tread)
Pirelli PZ4 - 218 x 4 - 875 - BEST comfort - mild/low life (personally certifiable)
Conti sport - 208 x 4 - 835 - ???
Potenza S-04 - 204 x 4 - 816 - low life (oem - 12k mild abuse)

Notable extremes -
Dunlop ZII - 285 x 4 - 1033 - long life +23k (personally certifiable-track and canyon abuse - 3 sets on 2 different cars)
Potenza RE-11 - 249 x 4 - 999 - decent life
Potenza RE-71r - 225 x 4 - 903 - reported low life -15k

Based purely on one size - the PS4 is the most expensive out of the summer max tires. I'm not entirely sure they will last any longer or post significant lap times over any other tire other than the S-04 on this list.

If the PSS's is any indication (which they aren't really, completely different compounds) The cost is not worth it versus an extreme or a cheaper Max summer tire like the PZ4's or ContiSports.

Continental has proven their tires can withstand track torture. PZ4 imo feels excellent for street driving, but ultimately too soft if you plan on abusing them. I'm personally hesitant on wasting money on the extra cost of the Michelins because i was never "wowed" by the PSS or PS2's.

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Continental has proven their tires can withstand track torture. PZ4 imo feels excellent for street driving, but ultimately too soft if you plan on abusing them. I'm personally hesitant on wasting money on the extra cost of the Michelins because i was never "wowed" by the PSS or PS2's.

good info MaysEffect; thanks

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good info MaysEffect; thanks

Doesn't make it correct info...

What's too soft for daily driving? I thought they're 300 treadwear

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Are Michelin Pilot Sport 4S good for daily driving?

The Pilot Sport 4 S offers everything you'd want in a track and daily driver tire while only sacrificing a little road noise. Based on our testing of this tire as well as the reviews we've seen from our customers, they are extremely pleased with the performance of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S.

How long do Michelin Super Sport 4S last?

The answer is around 40,000-85,000 miles. The Pilot Sport 4S is a tire specialized for summer, so it will be on the lower end of this range.

Are Michelin Pilot Sport 4S good in the rain?

The Pilot Sport 4S excels in warm dry and wet conditions, so like all Max Performance Summer tires, is not intended to be serviced, stored nor driven in near- and below-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

What is the difference between the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and 4S?

The Pilot Sport 4 is better in aquaplaning resistance, while the Pilot Sport 4S has better numbers in wet handling and braking. All three features are essential when driving on wet roads, especially when it comes to safety.

michelin pilot sport 4s daily driver