I'd go for the Zoom F8n over either of those for working in the sound department on low budget film sets. For a variety of reasons, a few of which are: purpose built F Control Panel, more inputs, proper dual media recording, better app, hirose powering (with internal back up), locking outputs, better app, BNC TC I/O, better ambisonics support, etc Show Just simply is much better built for purpose! Only the MixPre10 Gen2 (or MixPre10T) could tempt me away from the Zoom F8n as a primary/main/only field recorder. (and even then I'd give the edge to the F8n by a nose) However the MixPre3 is extremely tempting as a secondary bag for an ultra portable / lightweight rig. And if you're not working mainly in the sound department (which is my default assumption, as that is what this sub is), then for a general videographer the MixPre3 (or MP6) is very appealing as a super compact under the camera recorder for one man band no budget stuff. Topic: Any serious comparison MixPre II vs Zoom F6 out there? (Read 10068 times)0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. I am interested in a comparison between the MixPre II and the Zoom F6. Has anyone seen such a comparison anywhere? But no soundfiles are compared under the same conditions (same sound source, same time, same mic).  ‘serious’ comps? i’m not aware of ANY comps but hopefully that will change by summer MixPre Gen1 and Gen2 have the same pre amps (the main big benefits of Gen2 is 32bits / USB recording / internal Timecode) Likewise the Zoom F6 has the same pre amps as the F8/F8n/F4 Thus any comparison you can find between any MixPre with any F series should be very informative as to what the audio quality of a MixPre II vs F6 should be like. Think it was on this forum (or was it gearslutz?) where a while ago someone posted samples from an F8 vs MixPre without labeling them and got people to vote and guess on which they liked the most. Was basically random the split between the two, I'd say with Blind A/B testing that nobody can tell the difference between well recorded recordings from either. MixPre Gen1 and Gen2 have the same pre amps (the main big benefits of Gen2 is 32bits / USB recording / internal Timecode) https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=186654.0 Mics: AT4050ST | AT4031 | AT853 (C/SC) | Line Audio CM3 | Sennheiser e614 | Sennheiser MKE2 | DPA 4061 | CA-14 omni Pre: CA9200 Decks: Zoom F8 | Roland R-05 MixPre Gen1 and Gen2 have the same pre amps (the main big benefits of Gen2 is 32bits / USB recording / internal Timecode) Thank you Guys - yes I know this great comparison! MixPre Gen1 and Gen2 have the same pre amps (the main big benefits of Gen2 is 32bits / USB recording / internal Timecode) All the F series (F8/F8n/F4/F6) have "the same" pre amps as each other. All the MixPre series (3/6/10, Gen1 or Gen2) have "the same" pre amps as each other. And under real world conditions, nobody is going to ever be able to tell the difference between the final result out of a MixPre or a F series. So pick your field recorder based on what features / design you prefer. Are you a videographer/vlogger/cameraman shooting with DSLRs/Mirrorless and occasionally doing your own audio? Easy, get yourself a MixPre3! Are you a student/indie/semi-pro aspiring to have a career as a production sound mixer and want the best you can get on a very tight budget? Easy, get a MixPre10 Gen2 or a Zoom F8n! (got an even tighter budget than that? Go for a secondhand Zoom F4!) etc etc etc Look at your usages / needs / wants, and match it up with whichever MixPre / F series meets that the best.
I would be shocked if this zoom sounded better Audio Engineer & Archivist for Steve Kimock Productions Schoeps CMC6/MK4, AKG 460/CK63, AKG C34 I would be shocked if this zoom sounded better easy way to find out, take the comp i find the two samples very difficult to discern. ABX confirms this. I thought one seemed to sound slightly brighter on the vocals, but my ABX guesses were only 4 out of 8 (on decent iems - ety ER4 fed by a benchmark DAC with its HPA2 headphone amp). might be different on monitors but it seems my impression is right there with most other people - there is really no clear winner while SD does have a reputation for HQ pro gear, and zoom historically has served the lower end of the market, at the end of the day the zoom F series and the mixpre series are both designed for the the pro-sumer market. Its kinda irrelevant that 'zooms best' sounds as good as 'sound devices worst', when youre in the market to spend $400-$800 on an all-in-one multichannel recorder, those are what you are working with. What i would be more interested in, is the following: conversely, on the mixpre side unfortuantely sound devices doesnt provide block diagrams in their manuals « Last Edit: May 20, 2020, 10:44:46 PM by jerryfreak » currently "banned" for
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I don't have the quote handy but it seems like I remember that the preamps in the Mixpre series are a Class A transistor design - throws away some power but more linear if you believe the pundits. Line Audio CM3 || ADK A51 type IV http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/goodcooker "Are you the Zman?" - fan at Panic 10-08-10 Kansas City oh right, i remember discussing that hopefully paul can shed some light on what the deal is in the current implementation i assumed it was a conventional gain stage until the other day when he said there is no analog trim pre-adc in the mixpre-II perhaps its just a fixed gain i assumed it was a conventional gain stage until the other day when he said there is no analog trim pre-adc in the mixpre-II Sounds like it might be a fixed gain at all three ADC. So low gain, mid gain, high gain, then a seamless mix of the three. Idk. Mics: Pres and A/D's: Recorders: What is the zoom F6 used for?The Zoom F6 is the first professional field recorder to feature both 32-bit float recording and dual AD converters, providing an unprecedented amount of dynamic range. With 6 inputs, Zoom's solid time code, multiple power options and wireless control, the F6 is poised to be your new secret weapon.
Can you use zoom F6 as an audio interface?You can even use Zoom F6 as an audio interface to record music to your computer, a situation in which it works up to 48kHz, and it can do both recording to the microSD card, and recording to your PC, at the same time.
What is MixPre?MixPre II can record and stream audio to a USB host or record the USB audio stream out of a computer directly to its SD card.
Which Zoom recorder has the best preamps?Sound Devices MixPre Recorders
They have the best preamps and ergonomics you can buy. They are expensive but they hold their value on the used market. NOTE: In late 2019 Sound Devices released version II of these recorders, which are described here.
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