Video showing bouncers clash with a group of men including former Welsh international rugby legend Shane Williams has been circulating online. Show The chaotic incident unfolded at the Coyote Ugly nightclub in Cardiff on December 2, 2017, following a Wales rugby international at the Principality Stadium. You can see that footage here. New footage then emerged from inside the club, which shows Williams being punched by a bouncer. Three doormen are due to be sentenced for affray in relation to the incident which culminated in Williams' brother Dean lying unconscious in an alleyway outside the venue. You can see how the trial unfolded in full here. But while some party-goers might think bouncers are a little heavy-handed or power-hungry, they're ultimately there to keep people safe - and they often have to put themselves in harm's way. Here's what a bouncer can legally do during a confrontation: Using excessive forceBouncers are not simply free to engage in excessive force or violence as they see fit. Generally speaking, bouncers can only use force if it is first used against them, as the Liverpool Echo reports. These are the same rights as any ordinary citizen (ie the right to self-defence). What can they do?Bouncers are legally allowed to do the following:
What are they trained to do?Most bouncers are trained to resolve tense situations through verbal communication instead of physical force. Their presence alone can be enough to deter patrons from aggressive behaviour.  Video Loading Video Unavailable Click to play Tap to play What are bouncers not allowed to do?Bouncers can't use force unless they are first threatened with physical harm. So, unless they are physically threatened, they can't do the following:
What can you do if a bouncer assaults you?If you feel that you have an assault claim against a bouncer, you should:
Most places require bouncers to make written incident reports, especially where they have used force. You should find out if a report was made and request a copy. Karl Barry, the acting chair of the Merseyside Security Forum, said: “The rights of a security guard are the same as anyone else, he has the right to use reasonable force but that depends on necessity, proportionality and justification. “Was it necessary and was it proportional? That determines whether the action was justified.”
Story Saved You can find this story in My Bookmarks.Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Wasn't sure if there's a specific forum i should put this in... Maybe the bouncer thought it was fake? I suggest trying to talk to the management of the bar/club. If they don't return it, report it as stolen.. and remember to say they stole it! Report it as stolen and say exactly who stole it (the name of the club). They have no right to take a real license, they are only supposed to deny you entry if you're underage. Most bouncers are jerks any overstep their bounds; I've personally called the police on a bouncer who pushed me for no reason, as I have strong feelings about men placing their hands on women in a violent way. Thats really helpful, thanks! Off to the police station for him tomorrow... *gingerbread* Wasn't sure if there's
a specific forum i should put this in... Go over there and demand it back, or phone the police. It's definitely theft. I doubt anybody is going to be fined for passing off a fake licence. If they were, the club would have to make a complaint to the police (taking up their time) and they'd have to take you to court etc. To be honest, I have no idea why a bouncer would act in this way, it seems to be just asking for trouble. So yeah, rozzers. Get 'em, get it back. Bouncers have no powers other than those of a normal person. shady lane Report it as stolen and say exactly who stole it (the name of the club). They have no right to take a real license, they are only supposed to deny you entry if you're underage. Most bouncers are jerks any overstep their bounds; I've personally called the police on a bouncer who pushed me for no reason, as I have strong feelings about men placing their hands on women in a violent way. How'd it work out? Read the second paragraph under the heading "searches" HERE Phone the club. They usually hold on to fake IDs in order to hand them over the police, so they should still have it. Lib North How'd it work out? I filed a complaint. It was at a uni student night and I also reported the individual to the security company and to the SU. I have no idea what happened afterwards. Bouncers have the same powers as any other member of the public. IE they can't search you (assault), unless you agree to being searched as a
condition of entry to the premesis. Alot of bouncers do seem to think they're above the law, especially when dishing out so called 'justice' to rowdy punters .. So far my experience of bouncers is that they're nice blokes because they save me from scary drunk people when it's dark. But thats when I'm not trying to get into wherever they work, I'm sure if I was things would be a lot different.
Urgh, I hate bouncers. I was out last night for my 18th birthday and these 2 bouncers came up to me (inside the club after I had already paid the entrance fee, despite them being at the door when I walking in) and asked to see ID. So I was like "woo first time I can actually give ID!" and handed them my Drivers Licence. They then tell me I'm "barred" because I'd used a "false drivers licence" two weeks previously, which is completely untrue - I've never even owned fake ID and I wasn't at the club 2 weeks earlier! After much persuasion I was allowed to stay (apparently they're "90% sure I'm the culprit" sigh) so at closing time I go up to one of the bouncers and ask if I could try and convince him again. I'm told not to take the piss out of him and to **** off. Is it just me or is all this COMPLETELY unacceptable? They're making false allegations with no proof, they try to kick me out the club AFTER I've paid the entrance fee when they could have done it at the door, and they're extremely rude to me if I even try to speak to them (bordering on aggressive without physical contact). So, yeah, they ruined my night. *****. Is it worthwile writing the club a letter to try and resolve the problem (I'm supposed to be going there next Saturday too but I can't see them letting me in and it'd just be too depressing to be rejected from a club OVERAGE. There's no other clubs nearby)? Go for it- you've not nothing to lost as long as you word it right. Bouncers are so frustrating, they think they are the mafia! And just to clarify my initial post it was a real ID, a proper legal driving license, its just that he isn't 18! Cheers for all the replies btw, and its nice to know other people have bouncer issues too...
quadruple_twist So, yeah, they ruined my night. *****. Is it worthwile writing the club a letter to try and resolve the problem (I'm supposed to be going there next Saturday too but I can't see them letting me in and it'd just be too depressing to be rejected from a club OVERAGE. There's no other clubs nearby)? By all means, write to the club, kick up a fuss. quadruple_twist Urgh, I hate bouncers. I was out last night for my 18th birthday and these 2 bouncers came up to me (inside the club after I had already paid the entrance fee, despite them being at the door when I walking in) and asked to see ID. So I was like "woo first time I can actually give ID!" and handed them my Drivers Licence. They then tell me I'm "barred" because I'd used a "false drivers licence" two weeks previously, which is completely untrue - I've never even owned fake ID and I wasn't at the club 2 weeks earlier! After much persuasion I was allowed to stay (apparently they're "90% sure I'm the culprit" sigh) so at closing time I go up to one of the bouncers and ask if I could try and convince him again. I'm told not to take the piss out of him and to **** off. Is it just me or is all this COMPLETELY unacceptable? They're making false allegations with no proof, they try to kick me out the club AFTER I've paid the entrance fee when they could have done it at the door, and they're extremely rude to me if I even try to speak to them (bordering on aggressive without physical contact). So, yeah, they ruined my night. *****. Is it worthwile writing the club a letter to try and resolve the problem (I'm supposed to be going there next Saturday too but I can't see them letting me in and it'd just be too depressing to be rejected from a club OVERAGE. There's no other clubs nearby)? You could just go and they probably won't care. Most bouncers talk about 'barring', but as long as you don't cause trouble week in week out for months on end, they're unlikely to recognise you. *gingerbread* And just to clarify my initial post it was a real ID, a proper legal driving license, its just that he isn't 18! That's a crap bouncer, then...he should have either mentioned that your boyfriend's not allowed to buy alcohol or not have let him in (both of which have happened to me), but to have the licence confiscated isn't on, and to say for him to expect a fine is taking the piss.I'm always worried they'll do something like that because I don't look much like the pic on my ID (I don't wear glasses anymore, different hair and generally not quite as ugly as I used to be). But so far I've never had any real problems. Once or twice they've questioned it, but after showing them some other cards like a bank card or my railcard that has a more recent pic on it, they've let me in. What can a bouncer Do UK?Important: Bouncers have the legal powers to confiscate any drugs or weapons they find. In this case, they can also detain you until the police arrive. They must return anything else taken from you when you leave.
What security guards can and can't do UK?Security guards are allowed to use 'reasonable force' to prevent crimes under the terms of Section 3 of the Criminal Law Act 1967. They are not allowed to use weapons. Security guards can carry out searches of people or their bags with permission. Forced searches are not allowed, even if a crime is suspected.
What is the role of a bouncer?A bouncer's duties are to provide security, to check legal age and drinking age, to refuse entry for intoxicated persons, and to deal with aggressive behavior or non-compliance with statutory or establishment rules.
Why are bouncers called bouncers?The term bouncer has been around for a long time, but the idea of “bouncers” as we know them today really took off in the 1970s. The word originally meant someone who prevented people from entering a place, such as by guarding an entrance or saying no to those without tickets.
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