How many round bales of hay per acre Australia

When producing hay and silage from a paddock, it is important to be aware of how much nutrient is being removed. If the nutrients are not replaced there is the risk of the pastures not performing to the standard expected and low fertility plants such as dandelions and sweet vernal grass may appear.

Phosphorus (P) and potassium (K) are the two main nutrients to consider. The following table highlights how much phosphorus and potassium is removed in every 1 tonne of dry matter.

Based on weight of nutrient per quantity of product (kg)

ProductAmountPhosphorus (P)Potassium (K)Hay (grass, clover mix)1 tDM2–3.515–25Lucerne/clover hay1 tDM2.5–3.520–30Oaten hay1 tDM215–20Pasture silage1 tDM4.327

Where there is a range for the amount of nutrient removed (such as the hays), use the higher value if the hay is cut earlier in the season or has a large amount of green leafy material in it. Use the lower number for later cut hays.

Below are two examples of how to use this information – one for hay and one for silage.

Example 1 – Hay

Thirty (30) 5 × 4 round bales were cut off a paddock late in the season.  The harvested weight of these 5 × 4 bales was approximately 350kg each (wet weight), so 10,500kg (30 × 350kg) was harvested off the paddock.

The harvested weight needs to be converted to a dry matter weight.  Hay has a dry matter of roughly 85%, so 10,500kg × 0.85 = 8925kgDM or 8.9tDM.

So how much phosphorus and potassium was removed? The table indicates that for late cut hay, 15kg of potassium (K) and 2kg of phosphorus (P) is removed for every 1 tonne dry matter harvested.

Example:

15 kgK/tDM x 8.9 tDM = 133.5 kg potassium (K) removed in the late season cut hay in total from the paddock 2 kgP/tDM x 8.9 tDM = 17.8 kg phosphorus (P) removed in total from the paddock.

When fertiliser is spread on the paddocks, the rate applied is in kg nutrient/ha. This means when ordering nutrient to be applied as fertiliser from a supplier, it is good to also quote the amount of nutrient required as kg nutrient/ha to avoid confusion. To convert the amount of nutrient removed from the paddock by the hay to kg nutrient/ha, simply divide the amount of nutrient removed in the hay by the number of hectares it was cut from. In this case, the paddock was 3 hectares in size.

Potassium = 133.54 kg ÷ 3 ha = 44.5 kg/ha of potassium that needs to be applied. Phosphorus = 17.8 kg ÷ 3 ha = 6 kg/ha of phosphorus.

Example 2 – Silage

Fifteen (15) 4×4 round bales were cut off a paddock. The harvested or wet weight of these bales was approximately 700kg each, so 10,500kg (15 × 700kg) was harvested off the paddock.  This needs to be converted to a dry matter weight. Baled silage has a dry matter of about 40%, so 10,500kg × 0.4 = 4200 kgDM or 4.2 tDM was harvested.

So how much potassium and phosphorus has been removed? The tables indicates for silage, 27kg of potassium and 4.3kg of phosphorus is removed for every 1 tonne dry matter harvested.

Example:

27kg K/tDM × 4.2 tDM = 113kg potassium removed in the silage

4.3kg P/tDM ×  4.2 tDM = 18kg phosphorus removed

And converting into kg/ha rates of nutrients (paddock was 3 ha in size):

When contacting the local fertiliser supplier, quote the kg/ha figures you require to replace the nutrients.  They will either have a product that closely matches the nutrient content of what you require or should be able to blend a product to match.

Potassium = 113kg ÷ 3ha = 38kg/ha of potassium that needs to be applied

Phosphorus = 18kg ÷ 3ha = 6 kg/ha of phosphorus that needs to be applied

These calculations assume the fodder cut is not being fed back onto the paddock it is cut from.  If you think about 30 per cent of the fodder will be fed back onto the paddock it was cut from, you can reduce the replacement nutrient requirements by 30 per cent.  This is just replacing the nutrients that have been removed from the paddock by harvesting the fodder.  Don’t forget about annual maintenance fertiliser requirements that need to still be applied — generally in autumn

Note:  it is important to not apply more than 60 kg/ha potassium (K) in any one application.  Applying at rates higher than this could cause animal health issues such as grass tetany.

If needing to apply more than 60kg/ha K, consider applying the 60kg/ha K after silage removal, then the remainder with the normal annual maintenance fertiliser application.

I was where you are two years ago and put in a  crop of hay for horses as well. I seeded 6 Hectares and got 123 large round bales out of it in the first year.

 

I got a peranniel mix of seed so should get a  better crop this year. I contracted the work out though. Had the paddock sprayed with a herbicide to get any weeds down and then over seeded the paddock. This is best done late Autumn. Late spring they came in and mowed the grass down and put it into rows to dry out a bit. They turned it over once and then baled it early December.

 

I have  a 35 HP tractor and all the equipment I have would not be big enough to do the job in any reaosnable amount of time and doing it just once a year I dont think you would get enough utilisation out of the equipment you would need to make it pay let alone keep the maintenance up to the equipment. 

 

I can tell you that in the first year the bales ended up costing me about $50/bale. I would expect that to drop back to about $30/bale this year as I dont need to reseed.

 

i recently revisted this issue along the lines you are thinking and came to the conclusion it just didnt make  commercial sense to invest in the equipment required and then keep the maintenance up to it for a once a year harvest.

 

So what do you need to do this if you still want to go ahead.

 

Herbicide Sprayer

A reasonable size mower. I couldnt imagine mowing the 6HA with a 6 ft slasher. Could obviously be done though

hay rake

Baler and consumables for it.

 

Good luck with it all irrespective of which way you go.

 

regards

 

 

Terry

 

 

 

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Mon, 06/20/2016 - 22:36 #3

Kacprzak

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Hi Terry,
 

Thank you so much for the advice , it's most helpful and your right with the cost of all the equipment to harvest once a year it could be getting pretty expensive, with 50 a bale last year and prices here ranging from 130-180 atm you would turn a tidy profit without doing any real work.

I guess the decision of whether 50 a bale over 30 acres would generate enough cash to pay for the implements required and the work needed to be done considering i also work full time , hmmm the joys of farming , and being new to the caper ,

Thanks again

 

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Tue, 06/21/2016 - 13:42 #4

Terry

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Hi Tim,

 

Where's your farm? That few bales for that much acreage seems very low but I dont know the land. 

 

I'm on the Bellarine Peninsula at Drysdale and while we didnt have much water last year, I did probably get the best crop in the district but I think that was probably due to over seeding the paddock. I've just sprayed it again to have another go at the capeweed. We are getting good rains at the moment. Had 100mm last months and look like heading up for the same this month. It will be interesting to see if I get a better crop this year as predicted.

 

You may want to consider seeding but it is expensive. I redid the horse paddocks for a total area of about 2.5 HA and the 6HA hay paddock and it was about $2400 just for the seed. Did get great crops though.

 

Good luck with it. 

 

kind regards

 

Terry

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Tue, 06/21/2016 - 15:47 #5

Kacprzak

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Hi Terry,

I'm actually not far from you in Bannockburn , we are getting some great rain atm, i think i may of said it wrong as in $50 a bale over 30 acres , going off your numbers it would see us generate around 250 bales. Provided the prices stay the same you can make a good profit for not having to do much more than storage. 

Currently i lease 45 acres until my wife and I understand the farming game but this info makes it much easier and a lot less dawnting when we finish the current lease ,

Thanks

 

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Wed, 06/22/2016 - 09:33 #6

Terry

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Hi Tim,

 

That's pretty much agrees with what I got. From  what i can see at the moment you can do better out of croping hay than what you can get out of cattle or sheep.

 

Your costs are pretty much the same as mine for last year although I expect it to drop to about $30/bale this year. Will be intersting to see. Prices are pretty good. If you are happy to sell in 1's or 2's you can get about $150/bale down our way.

 

I'm going to see how many more bales I get this year from the paddock I have set aside and may do another 35 acres next year.

How many round bales should you get per acre?

From a good quality hay field on a first cutting, expect to get at least 4 large bales from an acre. An acre is 43560 square feet (208.7′ by 208.7′). Great soil, alfalfa, no pests, heavily planted with lots of spare nutrients, summer, well watered, and about 1,100 pound bales: 6 bales per acre.

How many bales of hay does 1 acre produce?

With an average bale weight of around 40 pounds (with our Abbriata small square baler or any of our mini round balers), that's 100 bales to the acre for a first cutting. Our farm aside, we can offer some guidelines to consider when trying to predict the productivity of your hay fields.

How many square bales are in a round bale in Australia?

Round bales have the same amount of hay as about twenty square bales. They are designed to be moved using tractors. Instead of having to move twenty square bales out of the field, into the barn, then back out to the cattle during the winter, one large bale is moved with a tractor.

How many square bales are in a 4x4 round bale in Australia?

If the large round-bale weighs 1,200 pounds and the small square bales weigh 40 pounds, then one large round hay bale would be equal to 30 small square bales. It important to know the weight of hay bales both for feeding and economic purposes.