Who made me a princess ending Reddit

Glad it ended with Athy & Claude, their father-daughter relationship is the main reason most people read this manhwa. And thank goodness it's an open ending with both Ijekiel & Lucas not shown ending up romantically with her. Now both shippers can rest easy.

Also, super happy to see Jennette! It was cute that Athy recognised her even from afar and while she was in disguise. Unpopular opinion maybe, but I'm happy spoon didn't turn her evil like in the novel. That would be too cliché just like the others. Any news of side stories? I'm excited to know more about Lily, Felix, Ijekiel & his father, and Anastacius.

This was officially licensed, so you won’t find it on mangadex. Manhwa are done webtoons style, so most English manhwa publishers use a similar sales model. I believe this was licensed by Tappytoons, so only the first 4 chapters are free.

Links to it are not allowed on this sub, but if you go to the r/otomeisekai subreddit, the primary piracy site they use for licensed stuff is batoto. The site’s like 90% smut, so given the demographic overlaps, you can find pretty much every otome isekai manhwa on it. The image quality is better than most of the other aggregators, and they don’t add their own watermarks. If you don’t use tachyomi, I hope your ad blocker is good.

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you also got to remember the fucking jeanette curse. Im pretty sure that affected claude mental state in the original

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I’m sorry, as again, I haven’t read the Abandoned Empress, but this is exactly what I’ve heard AE fans use to defend Ruve or whatever his name is: “oh he was under a curse/effects of the poison.” Like, okay? But how does that justify or make better that Athanasia was murdered wrongfully, and by the father she loved, no less? My issue is how the story plunks all this on us and still pretends everything is all well and good now...when it’s definitely not.

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I'm pretty sure everything that has changed is because Athy ran into Claude when she was five instead of at nine as in the original timeline. Claude, I believe, used black magic to erase his memories of Diana and by the time Athy met him in the original timeline they were gone. However, by meeting him at five she met him before his memories of her mother were erased (he makes a comment that had it been a year longer he would have already forgotten her). Over time he overcame his grief to a degree enough to have a relationship with his daughter. Athy started this "new" relationship just trying not to die, but by the time she accepts that the first timeline is also her she has had nine years to grow an actual relationship with Claude. She's also been emotionally distanced from the first timeline because for so long because she did not accept* it as having happened to herself. Her current relationship with Claude is built around the events of this current timeline where Claude has actually acted like a father (though it took a while) and gone so far as to endanger himself to save her.

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I once said that Claude’s character was necessary to the genre because he’s a SLIGHTLY more nuanced portrayal of the parents in real life who don’t unconditionally love their children. Flat villains like the shit dad from Untouchable Lady just aren’t believable, after all. Someone responded saying regardless, the extent of how he’s sugarcoated is unacceptable—which is totally true. God, wish I stopped pretending sooner

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Honestly this plus the fact he fucking forgets her again and she has to attempt to recover his memories so he doesn't hate/kill her (and die) is so annoying. Like bro why is ur child having to fix everything. Never mind the fact that oh she's the daughter of the woman you loved, and because that woman died giving birth to her... You decide you want to kill her too??? Like hello how does that make sense???? So her "sacrifice" means nothing 🙄

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Yeah. AE was the same sense of betrayal. It's not comforting or endearing at all. The only thing I'd want from Athy is to stab the evil sleeping beauty for being evil. Abuse is abuse, wether the neglect was magic or not. It's the exact same reason I don't care about the Dursley's in Harry Potter. "it was the magic fault!" Who cares?! The child still was abused!

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Thank you so much for pointing this out, this is such an underrated opinion.

I could overlook the fact that Spoon literally changed the whole concept the novel was based off. But what really got to me was the fact that Athanasia didn't even have the slighted hint of contempt towards Claude. I though maybe she was going to have conflicting thoughts at least a little.

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Spoon is just the artist, the author is somebody else...

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Welcome to the Club of people who can see Claude beyond his blond hair and six packs abs. Shitty father is shitty idc. You know who's a better parent? Felix Robane. But no one cares, because he doesnt have a bag of angst with him and an actual decent person with no drama.

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I blame all those brainless toons who don't love actual decent persons with no dramas and root for all those assholes instead.

If it was the opposite, perhaps we'd have much better stories.

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ngl I can't help hating Felix a little too, even if he's 100x better than Claude. Like where was he when his bosom brother/beloved ruler was about to slaughter his own child? I know it's unreasonable of me, especially since we don't know how Felix reacted to Athanasia's death. I think my anger is just souring my view on everyone in this story, except maybe Lily. But yeah. Felix was more of a dad to Athy than Claude ever was.

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Well, even though I believe that yes it's messed up for Athy to have no hatred toward Claude after realising that it was her life, I think it can be a little bit excusable.

She loved him before knowing this fact. She knew Athy from the novel was abused and neglected, but she didn’t connect the dots and didn't believe it until later events. After believing deep inside that Claude is her father. The daddy she always wanted.

I would say that the worse thing about it, that they didnt show the conflict of the realisation. A little bit of doubts that result in her letting go and moving on or something. Claude isnt good,but with an adult mindset she cluld understand that Claude was grieving and cursed. Her korean life ended by suicide so she very well knows what despair and depression feels like. The issue here was that it was never addressed to be satisfying.

I can see why you're mad, but at least I understood it like that. Realising something about someone you love will not erase the feelings you already have for them after all.

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Seems like I’m a minority when it comes to this type of thing, but I literally don’t think of timeline 1 Claude and timeline 2 Claude as the same person. Same thing for Ruve. It’s just weird to attribute something done by 21 year old OG Ruve onto some 15 year old boy with the same DNA but goes on to never encounter the circumstances that made 21 year old Ruve into what he is. Like sure Hitler was a bad guy, but if you travelled back in time, you wouldn’t think that toddler Hitler should be held responsible for the wrongs he committed as an adult in very specific circumstances, right? You can’t hold people responsible for things someone “could do given the circumstance”.

I often see people disregard the wrongs of Claude and Ruve on the basis that they’ve changed, but I disagree with that. It’s not that they’ve changed, but that they were never given the chance to become what they could’ve been, so there isn’t even wrongs to disregard. That’s why I don’t have a problem with Athy loving Claude or Tia loving Ruve. The Claude Athy loves right now never executed her (tho he did murder a palace of people). The Ruve that Tia came to love never executed her (tho he did say he would annul their engagement but didn’t without telling her). On the other hand, I was a little put off by Aria from Villainess Reverses the Hourglass bullying a 14 year old on the basis that she would execute her in the future, but Aria’s the villainess and that’s the point.

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All I can say is I’m so fucking glad I dropped this after the first season.

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I would like to say to people who argue that timeline 2 person isn't the same as the person from timeline 1. You're right, we CAN't punish or judge people for a crime committed in a past life but at the same time, we also CAN'T ignore the LEGITIMATE trauma that they caused another person in a past timeline. Trauma carries over. Doesn't matter if you're not the same person as before. A victim deserves to be away from their abuser. PERIOD. It would be more realistic, believable and, to be honest, satisfying for them to want nothing to do with the person who abused them in the past or hold contempt/anger towards them in their heart because they still went through it all and their feelings and trauma are legitimate.

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we also CAN'T ignore the LEGITIMATE trauma that they caused another person in a past timeline. Trauma carries over

^^^^^^ this

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Hmmm, I would find it plausible if she was traumatized, but I don't think she necessarily has to either. She basically lived a lifetime and now another 15 years or so without being aware of it or being influenced by it all that much. And yes, it seems like now she is very roughly aware that this indeed has happened in another timeline to herself. But I've felt for a while that she is living and thinking more and more as this timelines Athy and less and less as the person from her previous lives. It does seem very possible to me that she doesn't necessarily carry over all her emotions fully and that her emotions and thoughts are much more connected and influenced by everything that happened in this lifetime (though to be fair, there was some traumatic stuff in this lifetime as well)

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Trauma certainly carries over, but what do you mean by “the victim deserves to be away from their abuser”? If you agree that the person from timeline 1 and timeline 2 aren’t the same people, then wouldn’t that mean there’s no abuser to stay away from? Just a dude who looks like him. A genetic clone in similar yet different circumstances.

You obviously shouldn’t judge a traumatised victim for wanting to stay away from someone who looks like their abuser, but there’s nothing wrong for the victim to not attribute their trauma to someone who looks like them either. If anything, the fact that they can come to love someone who looks like their abuser means that they’ve overcome their trauma, and that’s a feat of strength worth respecting.

Or maybe they weren’t traumatised in the first place. Studies have found that there are simply people who are just not genetically predisposed to trauma, and that’s a fine character to write about too.

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They are both awful, Claude and 1st! Ruve. But if there’s anything that makes 1st Ruve slightly better is that he didn’t really order Tia’s execution. Tia stab the emperor, the parliament voted for her to be execute, Ruve wish to save her and was expecting Keirean to use the Monique’s one time immunity to save Tia, but of course Keirean didn’t and Tia was behead.

In the “ Lovely Princess”, Claude immediately suspected Athanasia to be the one that poison Jennette and put her up to be executed without a proper trial. Even after he found out who is the real culprit, he was just like “ oh well, what’s done is done” and continue on with his life. I was already bothered by this, but like you said, I thought it was just fictional but knowing our Athy did have to experience that’s just make me want to strangle Claude😅.

Who made me a princess ending Claude?

Who made me a princess Lucas backstory?